Our current moment of political, social, and even religious upheaval has been isolating in many inexplicable ways. COVID-19 restrictions have eliminated many of our opportunities to build friendships and network with colleagues. Many of us are now working, schooling, and worshiping from home, severing limiting our social circles. As a result, psychologists are reporting higher rates of depression. More than ever, we can see the crucial role community and connectedness contribute to our well-being. We need friends.

In this episode of Persuasion, Erin Straza and Hannah Anderson kick off a late summer miniseries called Getting By. Each episode of the series includes a special guest who has something specific to share about how we can get by in life considering the world as it is today. Gina Dalfonzo joins this conversation to help us see the value of nurturing friendships even in the most dire of circumstances. Her latest release from Baker Publishing, Dorothy and Jack: The Transforming Friendship of Dorothy L. Sayers and C. S. Lewis, provides a template for us. While Lewis is well known due to his Chronicles of Narnia series, Sayers may be relatively unknown. She was a wildly successful mystery novelist, best known for her Lord Peter Wimsey Series. This friendship is set against the backdrop of World War II; the unrest and uncertainty of their time parallels that of ours. By looking at their friendship—developed primarily via letters over a 15-year stretch—provides a picture of how we too could develop or maintain deep friendships even during difficult times. Conversation touches on the powerful way friendships can feed and shape our souls—as well as the trajectory of our very lives. Listen in for dialogue on questions like these as we learn how to get by together. Then continue the conversation on Twitter @PersuasionCAPC or in the CAPC members-only community on Facebook.

This episode of Persuasion is sponsored by Plough Publishing House, publisher of Gina’s new book The Gospel in Dickens. Plough is giving away five copies of the new Dickens volume! To register for the giveaway, visit plough.com/CAPC. Don’t miss this chance to win a copy of The Gospel in Dickens.


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Dorothy and Jack: The Transforming Friendship of Dorothy L. Sayers and C. S. Lewis by Gina Dalfonzo, Baker Publishing

The Gospel in Dickens by Gina Dalfonzo, Plough Publishing House

Persuasion 167 | Podcastin’ in the Rain, with Gina Dalfonzo

Persuasion 118 | Going Solo during the Holidays, with Gina Dalfonzo

Did you enjoy this episode of Persuasion? Give the Getting By series a listen:

Persuasion 196 | Just Getting By

Persuasion 197 | Getting By… with Wendy Alsup


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