We like our celebrities gorgeous. Until we don’t. The beauty and style of British Duchess Catherine has been all the rage since she married Prince William in 2011. But earlier this month, the InterWebs were all astir because she was just a little bit too beautiful. And as the saying goes, haters gonna hate. The trouble began when Catherine and William emerged from the hospital a mere seven hours after she delivered baby number three. As usual, Catherine was radiant, and her near flawlessness sent people into a rage. How could someone who just gave birth look that great? Outrage ensued as assessments poured in about setting impossibly high standards for the peasants of the world. How could we possibly measure up? Won’t all post-delivery moms feel like failures for not being as beautiful as Catherine? (Let’s be honest: For that matter, wouldn’t most women feel like ugly ducklings next to the Duchess?)

In this ounce of Persuasion fast chat, Erin Straza and Hannah Anderson discuss the ways that we demand perfection from our celebrities but then criticize them for fulfilling our demands. From Duchess Catherine to Carrie Underwood, recent web grousing has focused on women who are known and praised for their beauty, but then dare to be so. Listen in to all this and more, and then continue the conversation on Twitter @PersuasionCAPC or in the CAPC members-only community on Facebook.