Special guest David Lowery, director of last year’s Pete’s Dragon, joins the show today to discuss his hotly anticipated new film A Ghost Story, scheduled to release on July 7. He discusses both his creative process on this highly unusual movie and also what it says about humanity’s place in the universe. Then Wade and Kevin turn their attention to another much-anticipated film, Trey Edward Shults’s post-apocalyptic thriller It Comes at Night.

Listen to Seeing and Believing Episode 111:

Music interlude by the Fisherman, “The Stalker.” Used under Creative Commons license 3.0.

Theme music by Alexander Osborn and Lindsey Mysse. Used under Creative Commons license 3.0.