Noah Baumbach’s new film about a wrenching divorce carries the title Marriage Story, but the new film from Terrence Malick could be titled the same thing, with its narrative of an Austrian couple facing down burgeoning nationalism in their rural village and governmental oppression from the Nazis. Wade and Kevin tackle Malick’s latest, probing at its spiritual explorations and discussing Malick’s unique moral vision. They then relocate to sunny, modern-day California and its abundant open spaces for a discussion of Baumbach’s film, examining what it has to say about family, divorce, fidelity, and understanding.

Music interlude by Jack Nash, “Under the Tracks.” Used under Creative Commons license 3.0.